Hansbricks
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Yeah I'd keep feeding these for awhile longer man... the breeder estimates are almost always on the low side, 10 weeks is more realistic for most autos.
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Sweet Seeds Yozhik's First Grow: Sweet Seeds Cream Caramel, Cream Mandarine, Devil Cream and Killer Kush
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Yozhik
INTJ & Non-Violent Domestic Extremist
I think the Killer Kush can push out to 10 weeks ... not so sure about the Devil Cream or Cream Mandarine.
Going to be an interesting time ahead!
Yozhik
INTJ & Non-Violent Domestic Extremist
Looks great! Do you have any way to check the tricombs? Im in the same boat on wether to pull mine or not. Im on week 9 only flushed once. Ill be watching
Yeah - I've got one of those trichome loupe thingies - somewhere ... and the macros from the camera seem to get me in pretty close too.
Reading the guide on the link @elsamurai provided above - it's not so much the trichomes that send the message, with autos, its the leaves.
One day at a time ...
Yozhik
INTJ & Non-Violent Domestic Extremist
DAY 48:
Temperatures: ... Ambient Room 25 ℃ [+/- 3 ℃]
Humidity RH%: ... 40 [+/- 5%]
Lighting: ... 4 x 600w HPS
Schedule: ... 20/4
Nutrients:
pH of Feed: ... 6.5
EC of Feed: ... 2.4
Feeding: ... ~ 2.0L
Gave the girls their feeding last night when lights came back on.
The leaves on the Cream Mandarine are deteriorating rapidly - hooked, browning and crispy.
I fear I may have fed her excessive nutes, so will back off.
It's getting near flushing time anyway, so that's probably the signal I needed to start finishing these ladies off.
Killer Kush are getting frosty. [See. pics below]
They've been an absolute delight to grow.
Feeding schedule of 36 hours seems a little long - might increase it to 24 hour feeding from this point on.
Not a bad thing if I'm starting the flush phase anyway.
Cream Caramel #1 in 30L Airpot
Cream Caramel #2 in 30L Airpot
Cream Caramel #3 in 30L Airpot
Cream Mandarine #2 in 30L Airpot
Devil Cream #1 in 30L Airpot
Devil Cream #3 in 30L Airpot
Killer Kush #1 in 25L Airpot
Killer Kush #2 in 20L Airpot
Killer Kush #3 in 20L Airpot
Temperatures: ... Ambient Room 25 ℃ [+/- 3 ℃]
Humidity RH%: ... 40 [+/- 5%]
Lighting: ... 4 x 600w HPS
Schedule: ... 20/4
Nutrients:
Sensi Bloom A + B @ 2.0 ml/l
CalMag+ @ 1.0 ml/l
Nirvana @ 2.0 ml/l
Big Bud @ 2.0 ml/l
Bud Candy @ 2.0 ml/l
Bud Factor X @ 2.0 ml/l
Compact Buds @ 0.5 g/l
CalMag+ @ 1.0 ml/l
Nirvana @ 2.0 ml/l
Big Bud @ 2.0 ml/l
Bud Candy @ 2.0 ml/l
Bud Factor X @ 2.0 ml/l
Compact Buds @ 0.5 g/l
pH of Feed: ... 6.5
EC of Feed: ... 2.4
Feeding: ... ~ 2.0L
Gave the girls their feeding last night when lights came back on.
The leaves on the Cream Mandarine are deteriorating rapidly - hooked, browning and crispy.
I fear I may have fed her excessive nutes, so will back off.
It's getting near flushing time anyway, so that's probably the signal I needed to start finishing these ladies off.
Killer Kush are getting frosty. [See. pics below]
They've been an absolute delight to grow.
Feeding schedule of 36 hours seems a little long - might increase it to 24 hour feeding from this point on.
Not a bad thing if I'm starting the flush phase anyway.
Kappa Mu
Cream Caramel #1 in 30L Airpot
Cream Caramel #2 in 30L Airpot
Cream Caramel #3 in 30L Airpot
Cream Mandarine #2 in 30L Airpot
Delta Kappa
Devil Cream #1 in 30L Airpot
Devil Cream #3 in 30L Airpot
Killer Kush #1 in 25L Airpot
Killer Kush #2 in 20L Airpot
Killer Kush #3 in 20L Airpot
Yozhik
INTJ & Non-Violent Domestic Extremist
OK boys and girls ... a little "thinking out loud", which is also an invitation to comment, discuss and advise.
The girls have been in the tent for 48 days now [~7 weeks], and are all 'breeder rated' at 8 weeks [56 days] germination to harvest.
There is a common understanding that most 'germination to harvest' claims are seldom replicated in the real world, and are usually 1 or 2 weeks on the short side. So a more conservative expectation may be that these strains are - in real world conditions, in the hands of a novice grower - more likely to be 9 to 10 weeks germination to harvest. [63 to 70 days]
Using the midpoint of these options [8 weeks, 9 weeks, 10 weeks] 63 days puts the Campus @ 'T minus 15 days'.
They've been fed fairly hard with nutes for past week or two, and some are showing signs of nute exhaustion.
There is zero 'growth' other than bud fattening.
IF ... a 14 day flush was started now,
THEN ... the only downside to a premature flush is maybe a missed opportunity to inject as many nutes into the buds as time would allow, which might result in less than optimal size/weight.
The balancing upside is that a longer flush period and less nutes might actually give a cleaner taste.
IF ... any of the plants [e.g. Killer Kush 1] actually needed more than the 9 weeks,
THEN ... it would mean an extended 'flush period' of maybe 21 days
... but where is the harm or risk in that?
In 'nature', water is all it would be getting.
Getting water for a 21 day period is not going to hurt the plant.
As long as the plant and leaves are healthy going in to the flush period, then the autocannibalisation of those healthy leaves are going to give the plant what it needs anyway.
Am I missing something, or overlooking the obvious?
The girls have been in the tent for 48 days now [~7 weeks], and are all 'breeder rated' at 8 weeks [56 days] germination to harvest.
There is a common understanding that most 'germination to harvest' claims are seldom replicated in the real world, and are usually 1 or 2 weeks on the short side. So a more conservative expectation may be that these strains are - in real world conditions, in the hands of a novice grower - more likely to be 9 to 10 weeks germination to harvest. [63 to 70 days]
Using the midpoint of these options [8 weeks, 9 weeks, 10 weeks] 63 days puts the Campus @ 'T minus 15 days'.
They've been fed fairly hard with nutes for past week or two, and some are showing signs of nute exhaustion.
There is zero 'growth' other than bud fattening.
IF ... a 14 day flush was started now,
THEN ... the only downside to a premature flush is maybe a missed opportunity to inject as many nutes into the buds as time would allow, which might result in less than optimal size/weight.
The balancing upside is that a longer flush period and less nutes might actually give a cleaner taste.
IF ... any of the plants [e.g. Killer Kush 1] actually needed more than the 9 weeks,
THEN ... it would mean an extended 'flush period' of maybe 21 days
... but where is the harm or risk in that?
In 'nature', water is all it would be getting.
Getting water for a 21 day period is not going to hurt the plant.
As long as the plant and leaves are healthy going in to the flush period, then the autocannibalisation of those healthy leaves are going to give the plant what it needs anyway.
Am I missing something, or overlooking the obvious?
Depends what you are growing for.....taste or yield!
Personally I wouldn't run a flush for 14 let alone 21 days. I feed full power until 3-4 days before harvest then flush, but keep in mind I've just fallen off the smoking truck, have never vaped and mix my buds with tobacco before it disappears into a joint, so taste would probably have disappeared anyways in that lot.
Am I right in assuming vaping is the way to sample the taste rather than old fashioned joint smoking?
Personally I wouldn't run a flush for 14 let alone 21 days. I feed full power until 3-4 days before harvest then flush, but keep in mind I've just fallen off the smoking truck, have never vaped and mix my buds with tobacco before it disappears into a joint, so taste would probably have disappeared anyways in that lot.
Am I right in assuming vaping is the way to sample the taste rather than old fashioned joint smoking?
Yozhik
INTJ & Non-Violent Domestic Extremist
According to the brochures and multitude of testimonials ...
I've never vaped, but am currently in the midst of [comprehensively] researching it.
The overwhelming impression I get is it kicks traditional 'joint smoking' in two key areas;
1. taste, and
2. no combustion = minimalised carcinogens and adverse health effects.
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